David: [upbeat music] Jesus still reigns. He still has all authority, and now we are his sent citizens-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... completing and continuing the story of his people that he's been telling from the beginning.
Seth: Yeah.
David: We get to go hear that Jesus has been raised from the dead-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... and we get to proclaim the good news that he is king.
Intro: [upbeat music] Welcome to the Spoken Gospel podcast. Spoken Gospel is a ministry that's dedicated to speaking the gospel out of every corner of scripture. In Luke 24, Jesus told his disciples that every part of the Bible is about him. In each episode, hosts David and Seth work through a passage of scripture to see how it's all about Jesus and his good news. Let's jump in. [upbeat music]
David: Well, welcome everybody to Resurrection Sunday. Uh, we've made it through eight of these podcasts.
Seth: That's right. Yeah.
David: We're very excited. Uh, it's been awesome going through all of these.
Seth: I know. It's been fun doing this shorter kinda-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... quick fire format.
David: Yeah.
Seth: I like this.
David: So, uh, we're, we're thankful for those of you who have kind of been through all eight days of Holy Week with us or for those of you who are just joining us, welcome.
Seth: Welcome.
David: You know, for a lot of people, Resurrection Sunday is the one they're gonna listen to.
Seth: That's right.
David: 'Cause I don't blame you.
Seth: Yeah. This is the day that Jesus rose from the dead.
David: Let's go.
Seth: And we're gonna talk about it.
David: We're gonna talk about it.
Seth: This is the reason anybody anywhere is a Christian.
David: Yes. [laughs]
Seth: That's right. [laughs]
David: If he was not, we would be pitied above all men.
Seth: I was trying to, like, phrase this as in the most blunt way as possible. It's like, I... There once was a Jewish man-
David: Mm
Seth: ... a first century Jewish man, who is the only person in human history to have died and then risen from the dead.
David: Mm-hmm.
Seth: And during his life he claimed to be the king over everything and to be God himself, and then he proved it by raising from the dead.
David: Right.
Seth: That's why I'm a Christian.
David: Yes.
Seth: And like-
David: Yep
Seth: ... th- that specificity-
David: Yep
Seth: ... was like helpful for me in a way I haven't thought about in a while. Like, oh.
David: Yeah. Yeah.
Seth: A first century Jewish man claimed he was God and then proved it by rising from the dead. That's why I think he's the king.
David: Yep.
Seth: And that's why I live my life according to his laws.
David: Right. Yeah. Someone asked me pretty recently, "Why are you a Christian?"
Seth: Yep.
David: You know, like, or, "How do you, why do you believe in God?" Or-
Seth: Yes
David: ... any of those kind of apologetic-based questions-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... and they all come back to this day for me.
Seth: Right.
David: It's like, because Jesus rose from the dead.
Seth: Right.
David: The, there's... I believe in that historical fact.
Seth: Yes.
David: And everything hinges on that. And I think the apostles agree. Like, when you look at the ministry of the early church in Acts, what they focus on most is the resurrection and ascension of Jesus-
Seth: Yes
David: ... as proof positive of the gospel message.
Seth: Yes.
David: It's not Good Friday, although they talk about it. It's not-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... but it's Resurrection Sunday.
Seth: It is fascinating, and it completes the story that we began on-
David: Mm
Seth: ... Palm Sunday-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... where Jesus rides into Jerusalem like a rival king and a rival, uh, high priest-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... coming to tear down and build a new kingdom and build a new temple in himself. And on Resurrection Sunday, he proves he has the authority to claim-
David: Ah
Seth: ... the, the destruction of those things.
David: Yep.
Seth: And he actually is what he claimed to be. He is actually the king who could bring life from death. He is actually the king who's the new temple offering forgiveness through his body and the new sacrifice-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... that gives life to all people. He is everything he's claimed to be.
David: Right. On Resurrection Sunday, Jesus proves he is who he said he was.
Seth: That's right.
David: Okay.
Seth: That's right.
David: I like that.
Seth: Yeah.
David: And so it's interesting, I think a lot of times we're already starting to reframe a bit of Easter, a bit of Resurrection Sunday, from what people probably tend to normally associate with this day, and I'm not saying those normal associations are bad.
Seth: Right.
David: But normally what I would hear in, on an Easter sermon is, "Death is defeated."
Seth: Yeah, and that is true.
David: Which is, I mean, some of the best news-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... on planet Earth.
Seth: Yeah.
David: Not belittling that-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... in any way, and it's 100% true.
Seth: [laughs]
David: But what we've been tracking through Holy Week, Jesus wasn't talking a lot about what he was gonna do to death, you know? Uh-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... what he was talking about was, and what he was demonstrating, was that he has the authority to be the king of his people-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... and of all nations.
Seth: Mm-hmm.
David: And so what we're gonna try to focus in on today, I think, as we look at Resurrection Sunday in light of all of Holy Week, is resurrection as the enthronement of a king.
Seth: Mm-hmm. That's right.
David: Okay.
Seth: Yes.
David: So let's talk about that.
Seth: Yeah.
David: Sunday morning comes.
Seth: Yeah.
David: Women arrive at the tomb.
Seth: Yeah, and they see the stone has been rolled away.
David: Yeah.
Seth: And they walk inside. There's an angel there, a young man, uh, depending on translation-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... and he says, "He is not here."
David: Yeah.
Seth: "He is risen. Go and tell the disciples."
David: Right, which is a really good formula to remember-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... 'cause it's gonna get repeated several times.
Seth: Yeah.
David: That he's not here. You know, or like, he is risen.
Seth: He is risen.
David: Go and tell.
Seth: Go and tell.
David: Yeah.
Seth: And that is really interesting to keep in mind as w- as I was studying for this day, it's like that's kind of the thrust of-
David: Mm-hmm
Seth: ... everything that happens after this point. Jesus will appear, and disciples go and tell.
David: Yep. And so let's back up real quick and just give a little historical background to why that formula is so important.
Seth: Okay.
David: Because it follows, um, what was the traditional way that kings were enthroned, uh, in the time of Rome.
Seth: Okay.
David: So a king, like a new Caesar, would be enthroned, and, uh, as soon as that would happen, a proclamation would go out.
Seth: A gospel.
David: A, exactly, a gospel.
Seth: A euangelion.
David: A euangelion would go out. That, and that is where the term came from, was that was the news of an enthroned king.
Seth: Mm.
David: "I have a euangelion. Caesar Augustus has taken the throne."
Seth: Yes.
David: So a, a king is enthroned, and the gospel goes out to all the inhabited lands-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... that Caesar Augustus is king.But now [laughs]
Seth: Yes
David: ... there is a dead Jewish man
Seth: [laughs]
David: Who's risen from the grave and there's a new gospel being proclaimed-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... that He is King of the whole world and all-
Seth: Mm
David: ... authority has been given to Him, therefore, go and tell.
Seth: Go and tell.
David: That Jesus is King.
Seth: Mm. Like, it's a big deal.
David: That's the message-
Seth: That's a big deal
David: ... that's happening. So, uh, we talked about, on Good Friday, we talked about the, the cross as a type of kingly enthronement.
Seth: Mm-hmm.
David: Right? Jesus gets a crown, He gets a royal robe, He gets a scepter-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... and He's raised up on the cross like a king would be-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... raised up onto a throne.
Seth: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David: Um, and what was tinged on that day with irony and, uh, sarcasm-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... mockery, 'cause it, it was a crown, but it was a crown of thorns.
Seth: Right.
David: Right?
Seth: Yeah, yeah.
David: It was a throne, but it was really a cross. Today, all of those foreshadows [laughs]
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... are made real.
Seth: Yeah.
David: So Jesus rises from the dead. H- uh, what, how is that a kingly enthronement? Like, or what, like, why are we talking about kingship, ascension?
Seth: Right.
David: Why are we talking about those topics in resurrection, if people are unfamiliar with this idea?
Seth: Well, I think the reason why we're talking about it is because that's the story that Jesus has been telling-
David: Mm-hmm
Seth: ... and the gospel writers have been telling up to this point.
David: Yeah.
Seth: And so it's been leading the crucifixion as this type of coronation, enthronement-
David: Right
Seth: ... ceremony. But he dies.
David: Mm.
Seth: So you, you need a point, we're like, "Okay, but the k- if the king is dead-
David: Right
Seth: ... that mean the r- the r- powers that be are s- are the most powerful in the land."
David: Yep.
Seth: The way you kn- know how powerful a king is, is by the strength and power of the enemies they defeat.
David: Right.
Seth: He claimed to be a king.
David: Yep.
Seth: And then Rome and the religious establishment proved they were more powerful than him.
David: Yep. They had the bigger stick.
Seth: They had the bigger stick.
David: Yep.
Seth: So what then? So when Jesus rises from the dead-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... and why that's significant, I think we've talked about it a few times here, is like, death is a w- is a weapon.
David: Right.
Seth: It's the tool of empires.
David: Right.
Seth: It's the tool of establishments to coerce behavior or to make people conform.
David: Right.
Seth: So they use the one weapon, the biggest weapon they have.
David: Yep.
Seth: Killing people.
David: Mm-hmm.
Seth: They use it and it doesn't work.
David: It doesn't work, yep.
Seth: So if you have a king, a rival king-
David: Who can't die [laughs]
Seth: ... who can't die
David: [laughs]
Seth: He is more powerful than you.
David: Right, because every king has lost the war against death.
Seth: Every king has lost-
David: [laughs]
Seth: ... the war against death, and every other empire that gets another king to die-
David: Mm
Seth: ... wins and takes over their kingdom.
David: Until they die.
Seth: Until they die.
David: Right [laughs].
Seth: But if death becomes irrelevant-
David: Right, if it's no longer the threat against the kingdom
Seth: ... then that king must rule forever.
David: Everything forever.
Seth: That's right.
David: He wins.
Seth: Hands down.
David: Yeah.
Seth: And that's, that's why this is a, um-
David: Mm
Seth: ... it's, it's a vindication of everything He said-
David: Right
Seth: ... and proof positive that He is the King-
David: Right
Seth: ... over all empires and powers.
David: Right, because in the resurrection, He is the King who went to war against death and won.
Seth: That's right.
David: Okay.
Seth: Yeah.
David: That's really cool.
Seth: Yeah.
David: So what happens after the women see Jesus and are told to go and tell? What else do we need to focus on for this day?
Seth: Well, they go and tell the disciples, who come and look for themselves. When it's con- they don't believe the women.
David: [laughs]
Seth: But when it's confirmed to them, they get kinda freaked out, and they start telling other people, to some extent, and then that c- that, that, that pattern keeps getting repeated. Jesus appears to 500 people, He appears to 11, He appears to 12 disciple- He appears to a whole bunch of people-
David: Right
Seth: ... proving that He is everything that we've been talking about.
David: Yeah, and so there's this formula that continues-
Seth: Yep
David: ... where people hear the message that Jesus has risen, and then they go and tell.
Seth: Yep.
David: Right? They hear the news that the King has taken the throne-
Seth: Yep
David: ... and they go and proclaim that gospel.
Seth: Yes, and the best place to kinda just land this plane is the very end of Matthew's gospel-
David: Mm-hmm
Seth: ... Matthew 28. Which is days later.
David: Right.
Seth: Days later.
David: Yeah.
Seth: But it's the, Jesus is resurrected from the dead, He's done His, His appearing ministry [laughs]-
David: Yes, yeah
Seth: ... after His death. But He, He sums it up when He's speaking to His disciples.
David: Mm-hmm.
Seth: And He says, He makes a kingly claim. He says, "All authority in heaven and on earth-"
David: Yes, right
Seth: "... has been given to me. Therefore-"
David: Mm
Seth: "... go and make disciples of all nations-"
David: Right
Seth: "... baptizing them into my death-"
David: Mm
Seth: "... and teaching them my ways."
David: Right.
Seth: That's the, and that's the way the Gospel of Matthew ends.
David: Mm.
Seth: It's the announcement that God is King over all things, and that the world is being invited into His kingdom to abide by His laws and His ways.
David: Yeah. I mean, it is amazing the, that claim, when you put political and-
Seth: Right [laughs]
David: ... kingly lenses on, and He says, "All authority, every throne, every dynasty, every empire, every little country-"
Seth: Yeah
David: "... all authority has been given to me."
Seth: Oh.
David: Right? On earth, yeah.
Seth: Yeah.
David: But also in heaven.
Seth: Yes.
David: He is King of Kings of Kings of Kings.
Seth: And there's a sense in which, like, God is giving His divine power.
David: Yeah.
Seth: I mean, God and Jesus are the same-
David: Yep
Seth: ... but there's a sense in which, like, Jesus is being given the authority on earth because He's triumphed over it.
David: Right.
Seth: He's, must be given it. He, no one can defeat Him.
David: Mm-hmm.
Seth: He's been given authority.
David: Right.
Seth: But God is also giving Him the throne at his right hand-
David: Right
Seth: ... to rule with Him, yeah.
David: Yeah. And so He's the King, but a king without citizens isn't really a king.
Seth: Right [laughs].
David: [laughs]
Seth: He's just a king.
David: That's just a loner with-
Seth: He's a loner with-
David: ... some land.
Seth: Yeah [laughs].
David: That's a loner with land. That's not a king.
Seth: Right.
David: You need citizens. You need people under you, subjects.
Seth: Yeah.
David: And I think you can also, in the same way that you can, uh, see the power of a king by the kinds of enemies he overcomes-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... you can also see the effectiveness or the wisdom of a king by the effectiveness of his citizens.
Seth: Mm-hmm.
David: Like, how judicious is he in creating a just society?
Seth: Yeah, that's right.
David: Yeah, like, like, are his citizens good people?
Seth: Right, yeah.
David: You know, like, what are, what are they doing? And so it, it is cool, He says, "Okay, I got all authority. I'm the King of Kings of Kings. I'm the one. Now-"Go.
Seth: Mm-hmm.
David: And he gives a citizen commission to his people.
Seth: Mm-hmm.
David: Uh, and so much is happening in that moment.
Seth: A lot's happening.
David: A lot is happening. On one level you have the, uh, commission from the Garden of Eden finally coming back. Adam and Eve were told to be fruitful and multiply.
Seth: Yeah.
David: And they failed at that mission, and we've been failing since.
Seth: Yeah.
David: And now we can be fruitful and multiply again, but not just through biology, but now we can tell the good news about Jesus and invite all nations, not just Jews, into-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... this new multi-ethnic family of Jesus.
Seth: And another way that that story is elevated is in the Garden of Eden, God was with Adam and Eve.
David: Ah, right.
Seth: He walked with them. But when Jesus says, "All authority has been given to me, and I am with you always"-
David: Right
Seth: ... He's not just with his disciples in an analogous way He was to Ad- Adam and Eve, where He was-
David: Mm
Seth: ... separate from them.
David: Yeah.
Seth: Right? He lives in His disciples.
David: In, yeah.
Seth: The Garden of Eden travels with them.
David: Wow.
Seth: They are, or, uh, Peter says they are living stones of a new temple-
David: Mm
Seth: ... and wherever they go and make new disciples, new temples and new gardens-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... are being constructed.
David: And you know a little bit more about this than I do, uh, 'cause you taught it to me, so let me just tee you up for it. There's something else really interesting happening in Matthew 28-
Seth: Uh-huh
David: ... and the Great Commission-
Seth: Uh-huh
David: ... Jesus sending, is Jesus is repeating what happened at the end of Chronicles too-
Seth: Oh, that's right
David: ... the end of the Hebrew Bible. Talk about that-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... 'cause it's really fascinating.
Seth: Yeah, the very last words of the book of 2 Chronicles, which is the very last words of the Hebrew ordering of what we call the Old Testament, is King Cyrus proclaiming that the Jewish people should leave exile and go back to their homeland and rebuild their temple.
David: Mm.
Seth: And he basically says, "All authority in heaven and earth has been given to me, therefore go and rebuild your temple."
David: Right.
Seth: So Matthew-
David: Is riffing on that
Seth: ... is riffing on that, and Jesus says the same thing. "I am the king sending out my people to build a new temple-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... in all the earth." Yeah.
David: It's so cool.
Seth: And so He's-
David: I just love that
Seth: ... completing... And then another way to say that is He's completing the history of God's people-
David: Right
Seth: ... or continuing it into a new era.
David: Right.
Seth: We are God's new phase of his people, bringing about His kingdom, bringing about His-
David: Right
Seth: ... temple in all the earth.
David: And so now... So, so then, okay, so then Jesus gives that commission, right?
Seth: Yeah.
David: And then He ascends, right? And I think that is so important.
Seth: flies up in the clouds. [laughs]
David: Right, because I think that's all people think about-
Seth: Right
David: ... is like, "Whoa, cool. Magic trick." Or-
Seth: Right
David: ... is like, no, what's most important here is that He's taking His throne.
Seth: That's right.
David: An ascent in this context is-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... a, a coronated and crowned king-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... going to take His throne and begin His reign.
Seth: That's right.
David: And so when Jesus ascends, He's beginning His reign.
Seth: Yeah.
David: And so now, and that reign has extended to this point today, that Jesus still reigns. He still has all authority, and now we are His sent citizens-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... completing and continuing the story of His people that He's been telling from the beginning.
Seth: Yeah.
David: We get to go hear that Jesus has been raised from the dead.
Seth: Mm-hmm.
David: And we get to proclaim the good news that He is king.
Seth: That's right.
David: So it, we're continuing the story-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... that began on Resurrection Sunday.
Seth: Yeah.
David: We heard that He is risen, and we tell the good news.
Seth: And then feeding into a little bit of this, the other themes we're talking about, is like the necessity of death-
David: Mm
Seth: ... in providing life. In that mission, we're also given a confidence that... We're, we're not given a, um, guarantees it'll be easy-
David: Right
Seth: ... but we are given confidences that even if that mission ends in our death, our death brings new life.
David: Right.
Seth: Like, we're, like, our lives are generatively fruitful-
David: Mm
Seth: ... even when we die.
David: Right.
Seth: Uh, or even as we die sacrificing ourselves for others.
David: Yeah.
Seth: So there's no sense in which this Christian mission, this going and telling, can fail-
David: Right
Seth: ... because even the death of people proclaiming the gospel is another way that the gospel is proclaimed. [laughs]
David: That's right. That's right, yeah.
Seth: Uh.
David: That was really good. And, and I think it would, it would be really appropriate for us to, to land the plane here on the final resurrection. There will be a final-
Seth: Oh
David: ... day of resurrection.
Seth: Yes.
David: There will be a resurrection Sunday. I don't know if it'll happen on a Sunday, but there will be a resurrection day when Jesus, the King, comes back.
Seth: Yeah.
David: Right? He, He, He, Him comes-
Seth: Comes back to Earth
David: ... comes back to Earth, and all the dead will be raised.
Seth: Mm-hmm.
David: And, uh, we will live in His kingdom forever. Those who have put their fealty-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... toward King Jesus will be brought into His kingdom-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... to live with Him forever.
Seth: And that kingdom built on the precept of life rather than death, where healing-
David: Mm
Seth: ... and miracle wine and life from the dead-
David: Miracle
Seth: ... was the thing of-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... His ministry will be our reality forever.
David: Yeah, that's cool.
Seth: Like the special incidents that we get, like, he made water from wine?
David: Right.
Seth: No, that's the normal reality.
David: Yeah. Just go down to that river. It's full of wine. [laughs]
Seth: Yeah. Yeah. [laughs]
David: That's amazing. And so I think that's also what Resurrection Sunday kind of-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... ah, just, like, pulls me towards.
Seth: It's like, oh, this will happen for real one, like, soon.
David: Like, that I'll get a Resurrection Sunday.
Seth: Yeah.
David: It's not just something I look back to.
Seth: Yeah.
David: It's something I look forward to.
Seth: Yeah.
David: Like, it's something that I actually get to join in on.
Seth: Yeah.
David: That I'm like, even though I die, I will be raised. And when I open my eyes, I'm gonna see Jesus, my King, in this new resurrected world. Like-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... and, and, and that's, there's another thing, like, the world-
Seth: Right
David: ... creation will experience a Resurrection Sunday.
Seth: Yeah.
David: Right? Um, and so there's just so much-
Seth: You could keep going. [laughs]
David: ... to go on. But it's just so good. I, I've loved this journey through Holy Week. Um, and I think what I'm taking away from it, um, be curious what you're taking away from it too. I think what I'm taking away from it is just how soaked in kingship this week is.
Seth: Yeah.
David: That Jesus wants to claim authority over all the rival kingdoms and religious establishments that I think areBetter or that we think will save us or that we wanna trust in.
Seth: Right.
David: And he-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... he claims authority over them and shows how they're insufficient and is calling us to put all our trust and confidence-
Seth: Mm-hmm
David: ... in him, his upside down kingdom-
Seth: Yeah
David: ... his death and his resurrection.
Seth: Yeah. That's awesome.
David: What about you? What do you take away? Anything else? What do you take from this?
Seth: I mean, that was the bi- a big thing.
David: Yeah.
Seth: And I think there's smaller things, like, throughout. I'm like, oh, the Mercy Seat is-
David: Yeah.
Seth: Caiaphas would've gone to the Mercy Seat and offer... Anyway, like, smaller things-
David: Yeah, smaller things
Seth: ... like that, which we talked about-
David: Yeah
Seth: ... throughout. But I, yeah, I was really impacted and helped by this idea, Jesus has been proclaiming to be a king for a whole week.
David: Mm.
Seth: Intentionally causing his own death-
David: Mm
Seth: ... so that he could be proven to be the king of life and death, more powerful than anything in the world.
David: Yeah. It's a big deal. It's a big deal. Well, that has been Holy Week. Eight days.
Seth: Eight days.
David: Eight days, it's been really awesome. Happy Easter, everybody. Happy Resurrection Sunday.
Seth: Yeah.
David: Uh, thank you for joining us on this.
Seth: Thank you so much.
David: Um, if, if this is your first exposure to, uh, Spoken Gospel or the Spoken Gospel podcast, we release free content all the time. We have introductions to every book of the Bible. We have devotional teachings on every chapter of scripture, and then Seth and I sit down and have podcasts like this, going deep into different sections-
Seth: Yes
David: ... and books of the Bible. So, uh, we invite you to check it out on, uh, spokengospel.com, uh, Spoken Gospel Podcast, uh, or wherever.
Seth: All the places.
David: All the places.
Seth: And if you joined us halfway through this Holy Week podcasting miniseries, next week we'll be posting all of these episodes together in one video and in one audio format. So you-
David: So you can binge it
Seth: ... binge it if you desire.
David: Yes.
Seth: So.
David: So thank you, guys, for joining us on Resurrection Sunday, and we will see you next time.
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